English 430: Literature & the Visual Arts

September 2, 2009

A Modern (and Brief) Look at Rhetoric

Filed under: Uncategorized — ahime @ 7:49 pm

The idea of ekphrasis seems, to me, not only archaic in its intentions but also decidedly uncreative and unimaginative in the approach.  It is a technique that seems proper for an encyclopedia, but almost contrary to the tenets by which most literature is conceived.  The ancient Greek “art” of rhetoric that spawned ekphrasis, was devised by and taught to the elite.  Its purpose; to use language as a means of persuasion. Rhetoric in argument and politics was quite useful, but when it crosses over to art is where my mind starts to wonder.  Does the audience of a piece of art, really need to be persuaded? Do they need to put themselves fully in the hands of the artist? When looking at a piece of art, no matter the type media, part of the pleasure and most of the entertainment lies in my interpretation of the artist’s representation. When the artist tells me exactly what it is I need to look at and how it needs to be understood, the piece of art transforms into a lecture of sorts.  It’s then that I begin to ask whether the artist can be trusted as a teacher, and if that artist can’t be trusted as such, what good is their “art” in the way they deem it necessary to be viewed?

Rhetoric in art must have seemed necessary to the Greek upper class, not only did they extend their teachings to include ekphrasis, but they laid the claim that art is not art without following strict rules of rhetoric.  Possibly they saw the potential audience of a piece of art, as unable to understand what it meant—If someone did not see art in the way the artist himself saw it, then there was no point in the piece at all.

Yet, works of wonder can be created through the principles of rhetoric and ekphrasis.  The ability to describe an object as Homer does in the Iliad is masterful.  His creativity shines, but it is written in a way that is almost self-aggrandizing.  He requires nothing of the audience; no imagination, no emotion, no thought outside of what he has already stated, and in his extensive attempts to so fully describe something as real he loses what true art should always represent—that which is uniquely of the artist himself.

Plato and Aristotle would have been proud to read the Keats poem “Ode on a Grecian Urn”.  It is the modern representation of an ancient Greek lyric.  He goes beyond telling you what you need to picture when reading of an object, he tells the audience what they are supposed to feel.  This seems to me an artistic failure from the start, but the self-glorification present throughout creates a poem nearly inaccessible to a modern reader. The final two lines, two of the most famous in all western poetry, snap any connection the audience may feel towards the rest of the poem.  To anyone who has existed outside a bubble, these lines show how inexperienced the poet is and creates a lack of trust that makes the rest of the poem difficult to swallow.

In opposition to the modernist concerns of the early part of the twentieth century, Auden did not consider an economy of words as the means to convey his perceptions.  Auden claimed in his essay Writing that truth should be told in art and poetry so that the art cannot be claimed to have any “ulterior purpose”.  Auden used Homer’s description of the shield to writes poem that recreates the image, while at the same time is a clear indictment of war especially in the modern era.  His belief that only through words can the “truth” be told, is a mistake when it comes to art—each individual must find their own truth, decide for themselves what to take from each piece, or what use is an actual audience when a mirror would give the same effect.  In opposition to the beliefs of Auden is Williams a true modernist poet.  The contrast between these two is seen most clearly in their respective poems about a painting by Pieter Bruegel the Elder. Williams leaves a plot in the hands of his audience, rather than bombarding them with imagery.  Meter and language take precedence in “Landscape With the Fall Of Icarus”. To Williams the poem has a separate existence from the reality in which we live; art not as an attempt at exact reconstruction but rather as the transmutation of an image from the mind of the artist to the paper. In Auden’s “Musée des Beaux Arts” the reader is again seeing a modern example of ekphrasis; plot conveyed thoroughly through exhaustive imagery.

My major quarrel with rhetoric and its devices such as ekphrasis would be along the same lines as Williams or Eliot.  I prefer to see the creation of art that represents itself as art, not of reality.  As I said above, art based in rhetoric requires nothing of the audience except their open ears. While I do acknowledge the artistry that goes into describing something as convincingly as Homer or Keats, I also have a difficult time finding art out of their work as part of the audience.  When there is nothing left to discover or dwell on after the final word has been read, then the whole thing seems to be labor above a love.  Ultimately the textbook-like approach is resolutely far from art, but the creativity and imagination involved in translating an image into words as precisely as possible is, to many, an enviable artistic ability.

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  1. Regarding Homer:

    He requires nothing of the audience; no imagination, no emotion, no thought outside of what he has already stated, and in his extensive attempts to so fully describe something as real he loses what true art should always represent—that which is uniquely of the artist himself.

    Oh, I think there’s plenty of opportunity for the audience’s imagination and emotional inference here, and there is certainly an invitation to further thought. For example, what do you make of the contrast between warfare and civility, civilization and savagery, that is implied in the description of the shield? What do you think the shield passage reveals about what Homer considers important in life? Why does Homer so obviously exceed description and begin to insert commentary about things that couldn’t possibly be seen in a single artistic image? I believe there is a lot more here, potentially, than greets us at first, on the surface.

    Re: Keats:

    He goes beyond telling you what you need to picture when reading of an object, he tells the audience what they are supposed to feel. This seems to me an artistic failure from the start…

    But consider, Alex, that the object in question, the “urn,” doesn’t really exist (again, notional ekphrasis). It certainly doesn’t exist for us contemporary readers, who encounter the poem without knowing whether Keats had a specific urn in mind or not. So what Keats is after must have as much to with communicating an idea or feeling as it has to do with recreating or evoking any existing image. Isn’t the “Ode” really about the encounter between the object and the speaker’s mindset? It’s not really static description; it’s a testimony to the speaker’s mind. Keats isn’t simply telling us what to feel; he is involving us in the contradictory push and pull of the speaker’s own feelings. Isn’t there ambivalence at the heart of this poem, not just simple description or self-glorification?

    Would you say that Arnold’s “Dover Beach” is really about a beach? Or Shakespeare’s Sonnet 18 really about a summer’s day? No, these poems enact the workings of the mind. Surely that has some value?

    The final two lines, two of the most famous in all western poetry, snap any connection the audience may feel towards the rest of the poem. To anyone who has existed outside a bubble, these lines show how inexperienced the poet is and creates a lack of trust that makes the rest of the poem difficult to swallow.

    I think the insufficiency of these lines is pretty obvious, but that doesn’t convince me that the poem loses all value as a result. Look at the poem as a tug of war between disappointment and (would-be) consolation. In some ways the callowness of the last two lines makes the whole thing more poignant, in my view. Anyway, a poem doesn’t have to be perfect, or perfectly convincing, to be engaging and have value.

    Alex, you seem to dislike poems that present propositions or make arguments. But surely there is room for literature that goes beyond ravishment of the senses and actually tries to engage us on the level of ideas and claims. No?

    Comment by charleshatfield — September 2, 2009 @ 10:53 pm | Reply

    • It’s hard for me to look beyond what the poet writes if it is written as “Ode on a Grecian Urn” is. Because what is said, what is chosen to conclude the poem and close the image, I cannot understand the true motives of the poet. That’s why I say i don’t know if Keats can be trusted; whether he is speaking of a specific urn or attempting to convey something more (which is likely the case). I do tend to like literature that poses questions and makes arguments, but I fail to understand the point of art that raises interesting points and concerns then immediately turns around and answers them—Adorno said: “there is no longer a single idea which cannot be neutralized by recourse to the fate or psychology of its author.” This seems particularly apt in the situation of Keats and Homer; I see that they give to their audience a specific path to very narrow answers, ones unlikely in opposition to their own.

      Comment by ahime — September 3, 2009 @ 1:26 am | Reply

  2. In Auden’s “Musée des Beaux Arts” the reader is again seeing a modern example of ekphrasis; plot conveyed thoroughly through exhaustive imagery.

    Nah, I don’t buy this. Auden’s poem is not about plot. It’s about a realization that struck the poet, apparently, in the “Museum of Fine Arts.” The imagery he uses doesn’t come exclusively from the Brueghel painting, and it doesn’t involve the detailed recounting of plots. Auden is reflecting, not really describing. In fact he’s making an argument about suffering and subjectivity, an argument that is definitely an extension, not just an imitation, of what he saw in Brueghel.

    Comment by charleshatfield — September 2, 2009 @ 10:59 pm | Reply

    • It does seem a retelling of the story, not perhaps in the traditional ekphratic sense but ekphratically through a modern filter. What I mean by modern filter, is that Auden’s concerns are seemingly modernist, so the image of the painting passes through his mind, filled with these typical concerns, then directly translated to words in his poem. He rebuilds the image to work within the bounds of a modern struggle rather than the biblical one Brueghel portrays, but the Christian undertones of the poem make it hard for me to separate it from the story conveyed on canvas…the ‘plot’ seems to just be a modernization of the image within the painting.

      Comment by ahime — September 3, 2009 @ 1:50 am | Reply

      • I think you’re underrating your own degree of interpretive activity here! In fact Auden HAS enabled you to contribute your own interpretation and concern. The evidence is in our discussion! 🙂

        Comment by charleshatfield — September 3, 2009 @ 3:13 pm

      • Indeed, he has enabled me; possibly though through my disdain and perception of his poetic mediocrity. To read “Musée” without, afterward, seeing grounds for critique seems almost impossible in my mind. But next to Keats, Auden is quite perfect… 😉

        Comment by ahime — September 3, 2009 @ 4:15 pm

  3. Wilfred Owen’s “Dulce Et Decorum Est”—a powerful indictment against war, image heavy and a definite message, but also gives some leeway to the audience for individual thought and concern.

    http://www.english.emory.edu/LostPoets/Dulce.html

    Comment by ahime — September 3, 2009 @ 1:26 pm | Reply


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